B5 Passat Atq V6 Coil Pack Mounting Hardware

09-25-200807:11 PM

hey Guys, First off, i know i'thousand on the Audi Forum merely since the passat and
A4s an A6s have this same prepare i thought i endeavor information technology here too. thanks in advance for reading and any input will be greatly appreciated!! I got a 2000 Passat V6 2.8 and this matter will not offset! engine turns over but no start! I've checked timing and that'southward skilful, In that location'south no spark coming out of the Coil pack and then i know information technology is in fact a spark issue. I pulled the gyre pack out of my friends 2000 passat that runs perfect nad nevertheless no spark, so i tried his ECU (luckly the same exsact office numbers) and again, no start w/ his ECU. i put my ECU and Coilpack in his passat and it starts perfectly. I was looking for the ICM (ignition control Module) on these cars merely i do't run across one. Does anyone know if the V6s accept ICM? i know the 1.8Ts and two.7Ts have them but i don't know nigh the 2.8 V6. If it has one please allow me know where it's located, if it doesn't, please give me some input on what could exist the problem. Is there anything betwixt the ECU and Coilpack in these cars? Thank you so much in accelerate, Hopefully someone can give me some low-cal hither!!

09-25-200811:23 PM

Quote Originally Posted by Robv27 View Post

hey Guys, First off, i know i'thousand on the Audi Forum only since the passat and
A4s an A6s accept this same set up i idea i try information technology hither as well. cheers in advance for reading and any input will exist greatly appreciated!! I got a 2000 Passat V6 2.eight and this thing will non start! engine turns over but no start! I've checked timing and that's expert, There'due south no spark coming out of the Scroll pack then i know it is in fact a spark issue. I pulled the coil pack out of my friends 2000 passat that runs perfect nad however no spark, so i tried his ECU (luckly the same exsact part numbers) and again, no showtime westward/ his ECU. i put my ECU and Coilpack in his passat and it starts perfectly. I was looking for the ICM (ignition control Module) on these cars only i do't run across one. Does anyone know if the V6s have ICM? i know the 1.8Ts and 2.7Ts have them simply i don't know about the 2.8 V6. If it has one please let me know where it's located, if it doesn't, please give me some input on what could exist the problem. Is there annihilation between the ECU and Coilpack in these cars? Cheers and so much in advance, Hopefully someone can requite me some light here!!

In that location is no ICM on the 2.viii V6, correct, ignition powertrain is all integrated into the coil pack set.

Is your fuel pump running? You can check that by using VAG-COM/VCDS and putting the ECU in output diagnostic mode (DTM).

09-28-200804:26 PM

are you lot using a spark tester to bank check for firing? are the spark plugs moisture with fuel? do you take access to a scan tool or code reader. you may accept an issue with the crank sensor (drivers side of bong housing). is the ground wire hooked up to the whorl pack (right front spiral)? fuel pumps are common to fail and i know it may sound like mutual sense but does the car take gas in it?

08-07-201101:41 PM

Quote Originally Posted by Robv27 View Post

hey Guys, Showtime off, i know i'm on the Audi Forum only since the passat and
A4s an A6s have this aforementioned set upwards i thought i attempt it here too. thanks in accelerate for reading and any input will be greatly appreciated!! I got a 2000 Passat V6 2.viii and this affair will non start! engine turns over but no commencement! I've checked timing and that's good, There'due south no spark coming out of the Coil pack then i know information technology is in fact a spark consequence. I pulled the coil pack out of my friends 2000 passat that runs perfect nad notwithstanding no spark, so i tried his ECU (luckly the aforementioned exsact part numbers) and again, no start w/ his ECU. i put my ECU and Coilpack in his passat and it starts perfectly. I was looking for the ICM (ignition command Module) on these cars merely i practice't meet ane. Does anyone know if the V6s have ICM? i know the 1.8Ts and ii.7Ts have them but i don't know about the ii.8 V6. If it has one delight let me know where it's located, if it doesn't, delight give me some input on what could be the problem. Is there anything between the ECU and Coilpack in these cars? Cheers and so much in accelerate, Hopefully someone can give me some light hither!!

I have the aforementioned problem - new coil, new wire, new plugs and I become no spark. Mine is random though, sometimes information technology runs perfect and then others there is no spark. Did you lot detect a solution to your problem in 2008? If and then can you lot share the solution?

08-07-201101:46 PM

Have y'all scanned for CEL?
IIRC a broken cam position sensor will not permit the car to start, simply information technology can only be verified tru a visual inspection or a code. Sometime there is a lawmaking simply not necessarily a CEL (or the lite was removed).

08-07-201102:13 PM

Definitely bank check for codes with vag-com first. If y'all don't have vag-com, and you're trying to fix Audi's yourself, y'all demand to go information technology. $15 ebay cable and vag-com light will get you lot started.

Also, have you checked Fuse #29? That is the power supply to the ignition coil. (Or ameliorate however, did y'all check to come across if you are getting ability at the ignition gyre connector?) Fuse #29 gets ability from the Fuel Pump Relay. Is the fuel pump running while the starter is cranking?

Above info is for 2000 A4 2.8 30V V6. Just assuming information technology was the same twelvemonth as OP considering you didn't clarify.

08-08-201107:14 PM

Showtime, yes it is the 2.8 v6 30v ATQ engine. I've checked for codes and don't have any using a code reader. I haven't got a VAG-COM/VCDS and then I judge I need 1 of those - does that output to a computer and so you lot tin can see what'due south going on? I did cheque Fuse#29 and it is good and the fuse gets 12v power when the key is turned on. I've recently put in a new gyre based on a random misfire code. I've got new plug wires, and plugs. I merely replaced the Crankshaft position/speed sensor in an attempt to fix the random stalling problem, but it made no departure. Afterwards I replaced the crankshaft position sensor it did run and ran smooth as could be. I then turned it off and about an hour later I went to start information technology and information technology didn't start. I used a timing light to check for spark. When cranking the automobile it didn't have spark and wouldn't get-go; and then all of the sudden while it was cranking the timing calorie-free started flashing (we now have spark) and it immediately started. The auto ran for a about 5 minutes and I checked the steadiness of the spark past aiming at the crankshaft caster (don't really need to fourth dimension the engine due to the calculator control) and the spark was steady nearly of the time. It then stumbled a little bit and the spark was off position for a few cycles and then it caught itself and went back to steady. A few minutes later it stumbled and died. I have not been able to get a spark or get it to run since. I'1000 not sure which wire at the ignition scroll would provide power when trying to start - if anyone knows I can bank check that for power. Only since information technology started right upward when information technology got spark and stopped when no spark is present I'grand bold the fuel pump is fine. I but ordered new relays - fuel pump relay, starter relay, Engine Command Module relay, and a temperature switch (just in case). I should become that later this week and will install this weekend.

08-08-201108:47 PM

Power at the ringlet pack will be on the Ruby/Green wire (pin one) and footing is the Chocolate-brown wire (pin 2). Do note that you will only have power while the fuel pump relay is closed. So during the time when the starter is cranking is when you want to check.

08-09-201105:33 AM

Could a corroded or damaged Footing cause that?

08-09-201106:23 AM

Could be.

I know yous don't have any spark, how most injector pulse? If you lot take injector pulse and no spark, that just a trouble with the ignition system. If yous have neither, that'due south more likely an ECU or crank sensor problem.

08-09-201107:21 AM

My father, who owned the 30V before me, often had that issue with out any known reason. He would tow it to the garage, then the garage would showtime it the first time. Information technology'southward seems to me like a loose connection. He was likewise called-for ringlet packs often.
Just like a drained bombardment, the car will not try to crank, the relay will simply energize and discharge constantly.

Then he sold me the machine, I changed the spark plug (they where badly worn) and I never that any issue with the engine since whatever...

Maybe the mechanic played with the right wire and solved the result.
If the ECU sense an higher resistance from a component (out of spec) or no signal from another, it should trigger a CEL and not allow the machine to outset.

08-09-201105:56 PM

Quote Originally Posted past walky_talky20 View Post

Power at the scroll pack volition exist on the Cerise/Green wire (pin i) and ground is the Brown wire (pivot ii). Practise annotation that you volition only have power while the fuel pump relay is closed. So during the fourth dimension when the starter is cranking is when you want to check.

Yes, I have power at the curl when I crank information technology. Merely still no spark. I did order the Ross-Tech VAG-COM/VCDS concluding night so I should have that later this calendar week or next

08-11-201101:31 PM

Quote Originally Posted past FNK View Post

Have yous scanned for CEL?
IIRC a broken cam position sensor will non let the car to showtime, but information technology can only be verified tru a visual inspection or a code. Sometime there is a code but non necessarily a CEL (or the light was removed).

I would look here as well, although if your tach is moving, then the machine is receiving a signal from the flywheel.

08-11-201108:34 PM

Is the car an car? If so there is a relay for the ECU that can get corroded and preclude the ecu from starting, its located in the ecu box.

08-eleven-201108:43 PM

Quote Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt View Post

Is the car an auto? If and so in that location is a relay for the ECU that can get corroded and forbid the ecu from starting, its located in the ecu box.

Oh, I didn't know that. I'll check tomorrow. I got all the relays in from Rock Auto today and none of them match any of the relays nether the dash (behind the fuse box). equally a cheque I installed the sometime coil (that was giving me missing problems) and the car started correct upwards. I put back in the other coil and nada, so I guess the coil went bad. Does anyone know of why the coil on the v6 would go bad? The starting time whorl lasted 163,000+ miles and now I've put in 3 coils in the last 4000 miles. That doesn't seem right. I'yard going to hook upward the Ross-Tech VCDS to see what it says.

08-xi-201108:46 PM

Are these coils from Autozone, possibly?

08-xi-201109:38 PM

Swap a V8 into information technology. Problem solved.

08-11-201111:38 PM

Just had the same problem in my b5 check the relay in the ecu box thats black labled 30, this is the main relay that sends power throught out your auto.my pins on my relay some how aptitude in ward causing a loose conection. try to crank and jerk that relay or bend the pins outward so it clips into place. new relay on ebay thirteen bucks

08-fourteen-201112:21 PM

Quote Originally Posted by walky_talky20 View Post

Are these coils from Autozone, perhaps?

No, they have been brand name Meyle and another I don't recall from autopartswarehouse.com. I'm planning on ordering Beck/ARNLEY this time from RockAuto.com. Any suggestions on brands? I likewise had put on new wire, and then now I'g planning on NGK plugs BKR6E, BECK/ARNLEY wires, BECK/ARNLEY coil.

Any other suggestions on brands earlier I order?

08-14-201106:37 PM

Any chance it could be a bad coolant temp sensor? Unplug information technology and attempt cranking, sometimes they wake up a little on fixed values

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